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[Updated February 7, 2008]
Editor's Note

Comments from the President: Pat Little
Happy New Year to All; 2008 is the 90th year that there has been a 30th Field Artillery Regiment, and we are going to celebrate this anniversary at our reunion at Fort Sill June 25 to 29, 2008. As you will see, this newsletter is the kickoff for this coming reunion. John Hoetker Jr., vice president of the Association, has done an excellent job in preparing the enclosed instructions and information.
I’ve mentioned before that the main purpose of this Association is to have annual meetings where we can mix with veterans that have the 30th Artillery Regiment in common. Mark off the days and plan to attend. As you can see from the agenda we will have activities for all. The trip to Oklahoma City will offer a break from Fort Sill for the women in our lives who will be attending.
I’ve mentioned before that the main purpose of this Association is to have annual meetings where we can mix with veterans that have the 30th Artillery Regiment in common. Mark off the days and plan to attend. As you can see from the agenda we will have activities for all. The trip to Oklahoma City will offer a break from Fort Sill for the women in our lives who will be attending.
We are also working on other events such as the renaming of our room to the “Vernor Auditorium”
Dan Gillotti has worked on this, however at the time of printing we have not received a confirmation from the command at Sill.
Comma is working on providing new items for the Quartermaster store which will be introduced at the reunion.
Cliff Anderson will also be offering the print he provided to the Association last year, Wake Up Call.
I have a job for all who receive this newsletter. We want to update the contact information for all of our members.
Changes in email addresses cause the most problems. If your information has changed, or if you know of another member
whose mailing address, phone number, or email address has changed, please let us know. Send the changes to our
Membership Chairman, Cliff Anderson, and Secretary, John Dynes, who can be contacted by way of the addresses
at the end of this message. We will be sending out an updated membership list before the reunion, so the sooner you respond,
the better. Thank you in advance for your attention to this matter.
I want to remind you that we have three members appointed by the Board to counsel and and assist us in a time of personal need:
I bring this to your attention as we keep membersof the Association who are having health problems in our thoughts.
I would like to find a better way to provide information on the welfare of our members.
Have a great year, plan on attending the reunion, and send in those changes in contact information!
Pat Little
How to reach Cliff Anderson
P.O. Box 161
Joy, IL 61260-0161
papac@frontiernet.net
Don’t forget to check out the Quartermaster Store on-line. You can reach it through the web site and check out the items available. The QM has done a great job in keeping up with a supply of innovative and attractive paraphernalia just for us old redlegs!!
http://hardchargers.com/shop/commerce.cgi/

What Goes Up!
Anecdote submitted by Dale Tucker and Ray Zugel
What Goes Up...
On the 29th of August, 1968, C/6/16 Arty, formerly B/1/30, occupied a mountainous piece of Vietnamese real estate called LZ Panther III. Panther III looked just like a series of steps, nothing
whatsoever like the firing positions called for by FM 6-40. There were three guns on the first step, three more on the second, and a 105 battery on the topmost. The rugged and rocky
terrain made the resupply of ammo quite a chore moving the heavy projos up the to the higher guns. But miraculously, at some point a jeep showed up on one of the chopper loads. The
artillerymen immediately commandeered it to haul ammo from the chopper pad near the lowest part of the position to the gun pits. Working in reverse, the little vehicle performed just fine,
navigating the steep slopes to reach the guns with the canisters and shells. But alas — after several successful trips up the hill and back, one driver forgot to set the brake, and gathering speed
as it descended, the driverless 4X4 headed down the series of embankments with mind of its own. In the words of one of the unbelieving onlookers, it “took a left before the chopper pad”
and was never seen again. Perhaps its disappearance can be attributed to the dictionary definition of “Artillery” — weapons such as “bows, slings and catapults, and other devices for discharging
missiles.” But there is no mention of jeeps…
Well before it was the home of the Field Artillery and long, long before there was any talk of a missile school, (the only missile
launched around Sill in its early days came from a bow), Fort Sill Sill played a central role in the long-forgotten Red River War.
This “war” from 1874 to 1875 virtually brought to an end the struggles between the United States Army and the Indian tribes
of the southern plains. Only the isolated attacks of the Apaches would demand the intervention of the soldiers from that time forward
in the Southwest, although the northern plains of the Dakotas and Montama would see much bloodshed before that area
too fell quiet.
The trigger for the Red River War was not a dispute with the white man but the desire for revenge among the tribes themselves, the Comanche against the Tonkawa. The
Comanche, led by a charismatic warrior named Quanah, the son of an influential chief and a captive white mother, enlisted the aid of the Kiowa and Cheyenne tribes in the
confrontation with the Tonkawa. In addition to conducting raids into Comanche territory, the Tonkawa also served as scouts for the US Cavalry, which was thinly posted
throughout north Texas and the area which later became Oklahoma. One of the advantages that the Comanche felt they possessed was the “magic” of a tribal holy man,
who assured the warriors that the bullets of their adversaries would fall harmlessly to the ground. (A similar claim would motivate the northern Sioux “ghost dancers” nearly
fifteen years later, with the same predictable result.)
However, the Indian agent at Fort Sill became aware of the proposed campaign and the army commander controlling the Tonkawa scouts pulled them into the security of
the nearest compound. Their plan foiled, the Comanche picked another objective, the white hunters who were wantonly and recklessly slaughtering the buffalo herds, stripping
the hides and leaving the carcasses to rot throughout the tribal hunting grounds. A group of several hundred Indians moved against a small collection of mud and pole
huts which slightly more than two dozen hunters used as a base. The name of the base was Adobe Walls.
The Battle of Adobe Walls, the opening battle of the Red River War, was characterized by conspicuous bravery on the part of Quanah and the Indian confederation against
the lethal and powerful hunting rifles of the surrounded hunters, protected as they were by the dried mud structures. The Indians also found to their dismay that the “magic” did
not work, and after four hours of failing to overcome the hunters’ resistance, they withdrew, more angry at the now-disgraced medicine man than at the failure of the attack.
In spite of the failure, the various tribes remained on the warpath as they had a number of grievances in addition to the reduction in the buffalo’s numbers — inadequate
reservation rations, white horse thieves who went unpunished, and the confinement of several of their key chiefs, such as Kicking Bird and Santanta (whose cells can be
seen today at the Fort Sill guardhouse.) The soldiers had their complaints as well, particularly the ban on military action within the reservation boundaries, where even
“hot” pursuit” could not be completed. (Sounds like the VN no-fire zones) The problemswere intensified by the mediocrity of the Fort Sill CO.
An attempt to enroll the Indians at Fort Sill turned into a fiasco, as not only the peaceable tribes showed up, but so did those known to be hostile, who had no intention of
surrendering their weapons. The result was that following a two-day battle, all tribes concerned scattered to the four winds, compounding the army’s difficulty.
General Philip Sheridan of Civil War fame sent out two of his former Army of the Potomac officers, Nelson Miles and Ranald McKenzie, with about 750 troopers each to
try to round up the warring tribes. Fort Sill continued to play a central role in the campaign, which lasted more than a year but which featured very little action. The Indians
were worn down by the need to stay constantly on the move and the resulting lack of provisions. Several chiefs, including Santanta, turned themselves in only to be
packed off in irons to Fort Sill. And in the early fall of 1874, a Kiowa-Comanche coalition was badly hurt at the “Battle “of Palo Duro Canyon, which caused only four casualties
but which cost the Indians their entire horse herd and all of their winter stores. By the following spring, all of the principal chiefs, including Quanah, had turned themselves
in. Quanah took his mother’s maiden name, and as Quanah Parker, became a prosperous and successful reservation Indian. He was one of the lucky ones —
many of the other ringleaders, most selected arbitrarily, were sent shackled to prisons in Florida or to Carlisle, PA, for instruction in the science of farming. The Red River
War, which began with the crack of a rifle, ended with the swish of a scythe.
Information extracted from MHQ — the Quarterly Journal of Military History, Autumn 2007, Volume 20, Number 1
Report of General Meeting
If you did not attend the 2007 reunion and would like to get a copy of the proceedings of the General Meeting, please write or email the newsletter editor and a copy will be mailed to you. Addresses can be found on the outside sheet of the newsletter, or the last page on the email version.
Minutes of the meeting are similarly available and can be emailed if desired.
These minutes will not be “official” until approved at the 2008 meeting.
30th Field Artillery Regiment Association Reunion
Fort Sill, Oklahoma June 25 - 29, 2008
ROOM TYPE SINGLE ROOM RATE
Each additional guest (1 year of age or older) is $5.00 per person per day.
Be certain to have photo ID, drivers license, vehicle registration, and proof of insurance to be admitted to Fort Sill. Some days are 100% days and all passengers must have an ID; the gate guards scan your ID with a handheld computer that verifies your identity and your photo (driver's license/ID photo).
Our Hospitality Suite will be on the 3rd floor of Allin Hall, just off of the elevator. It is the same one that we had in 2006.
Wednesday June 25, 2008
Welcome/Sign In. Hospitality Suite will be open. Renew old friendships, make new ones, have a Guiness, review
the ever increasing volumes of the Regiment’s proud history complied by Dan Gillotti, and visit our Quartermaster
and buy some more really neat stuff (hats, shirts, patches, pins, bumper stickers, …).
Thursday June 26, 2008
Bus tour to Oklahoma City. A brochure of Oklahoma City attractions will be sent to each attendee by the Oklahoma
City Convention & Visitors Bureau. The trip will be limited to 46 persons on a first come-first serve basis. We will first
go to the National Cowboy and Western Heritage Museum (9:00AM to 11:00AM). Then to Bass Pro Shops Outdoor
World (11:30AM to 12:30PM). We will then go to Bricktown (1:00PM to 3:00PM). THE SPAGHETTI WAREHOUSE
and other restaurants are available for lunch, or you may just sightsee. Near Bricktown is the Oklahoma City National
Memorial and Museum, built as a memorial to the victims of the bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building. When our
visit is complete we will return to Fort Sill. Lunch and dinner are on your own. The Hospitality Suite will be open.
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Friday June 27, 2008
In the morning we will attend the 1st Bn 30th FA Regiment’s Change of Command ceremony at the Polo Field.
After the Change of Command, we will go to The Lodge at Lake Elmer Thomas Recreation Area for our luncheon.
Later that afternoon, the memorial for our regiment’s fallen and the dedication of the Regimental Room will be held at
Snow Hall. The Hospitality Suite will be open.
Saturday June 28, 2008
We will hold our Board Meeting and General Membership Meeting on Saturday, time and location to be announced.
There will be election of officers, a vote on a proposed by-law change, and the 2009 reunion site will be chosen. Our
Prime Rib dinner will be held Saturday evening at The Patriot Club. After dinner will be our highly acclaimed world
famous auction. Don’t forget to bring something special for the auction. The Hospitality Suite will be open.
Sunday June 29, 2008
Exfiltrate to our respective HOR’s where we will consolidate and reorganize and prepare for 2009’s reunion.
Registration form is in .pdf format; click on the .pdf Icon and it will produce the Registration Form which is printable.
HARD CHARGER, SIR!
John Hoetker
PFC, A Btry, 5th Msl Bn, 30th ARTY
2nd Vice President
2008 Reunion Coordinator
Our annual reunion in 2008 once more returns to that hot and dusty outpost where most of us got our first real taste of the Field Artillery — that windswept and barren section of one of the last states to join the Union that, to borrow a phrase used to describe any such spot, “would be a bad place to lose a cow.” There probably is as much metal out on “U” Arbuckle range as any iron mine in the world — I know there are at least as many “yellow car bodies” (identified as “mortars firing”’ or “enemy troops in the open”) as any where else! Little did we know when we first arrived there at the age of 18 or 19 or 20 that this Army fort first established as a center for action against the Comanche, Kiowa, and Cheyenne would continue to draw us back so many years later.
And yet it does have a mystique all its own, one that to an artilleryman presents an attraction that no other post — not Lewis or Rucker or Hood or any other that could be named — has. A stroll along Cannon Walk brings to mind not only the death-dealing artillery weapons of other times and of other nations, but also those pieces which we served, now relegated to history, rusting in the harsh climate, and certainly lacking the ferocity that they had when we as “soldiers once and young” manned them. A visit to the firing ranges on either side of the post recalls the days and weeks spent trying desperately to spot that “yellow car body” before the instructor called out “Your Mission,” or the gun chief screamed “Charge 4! Green Bag!” and the fingers and hands fumbled in a frantic effort to seat the projectile.
We will gather once more next summer in the latter part of June to renew acquaintances with others for whom the above sounds have a common meaning, and to see, perhaps for some, for a final time those with whom we shared an experience like no other — the terror and the boredom of war. So as you pick up that 2008 calendar (whether it features cats, gardens of the world, or playmates of the month) mark and set aside the last two weeks of June for our get-together. As soon as the information on the change of command ceremony is known, we’ll get the word out as to the exact dates and let you know. Until then, it’s “HARD CHARGER, SIR!”
It wouldn’t be a reunion without those books. This year the books have been updated, expanded with new materials, pictures, and overall improved. You see the pictures of the young men, the fire bases they occupied. You see the howitzers. You realize all they endured. They were on those guns 24/ 7/365. You look at the pictures of what was left of FB Becky, and you know what they sacrificed. You’ve got to be really tough if that doesn’t bring some moisture to your eyes.
Another Website of Interest
An email was received recently from a Katherine Kaboord calling our attention to the website http://www.cannonartillery.com/ is devoted entirely to being a source for news and information about cannon
artillery and highlights the outstanding work Redlegs are doing in hotspots around the globe. There are a lot of downloadable photos, information on every cannon in the U.S. Military service, and links to a host of other cannon-related web sites.
The web site also hosts a popular Trivia game each month. January’s question had to do with the 155.
If you’re interested, check it out.
1st Battalion, 30th FA Regiment [Active] Happy New Year from Fort Sill and the Fires Center of Excellence
Greetings from Fort Sill and the Fires Center of Excellence. Striving to the Highest! That’s exactly what the Soldiers of 1st Battalion, 30th Field Artillery have been doing over the past year. Since last July, the battalion has performed superbly in training and developing future warrior leaders and field artilleryman for The Army and The United States Marine Corps. Across the numerous courses we teach, the Instructors and Soldiers of the battalion have dedicated themselves to producing competent, confident, and adaptable officers, grounded in warrior tasks and able to lead in today’s fluid combat environment. I can honestly say that if it were not for the true professionals we have in this battalion, we would not be successful. A few examples to highlight the many successful accomplishments within the past year are: Since my last update, the Soldiers of the Hard Charger Battalion continue to provide superb training and leadership ensuring we produce skilled and adaptive Warrant Officers, Lieutenants, and Captains for our Army and Marine Corps. As I outlined in my last update, the most significant challenge the battalion faces this year is a significant change to our organizational structure. As a matter of fact, this changed started on October 1st, 2007 when we transitioned to the new manning document for 2008
Currently, we exist as two battalions (1st Battalion, 30th Field Artillery and 1st Battalion, 22D Field Artillery) rolled-up in one and we can expect to stay that way until early May 2008. In May, 1st Battalion, 22d Field Artillery will relinquish its mission of conducting 13 series AIT and assume its new mission of training new Second Lieutenants as part of the Army’s Basic Officer Leadership Course-Phase II (BOLC II). This event will reduce the overall size of out battalion from nine to three subordinate units. Once complete, 1st Battalion, 30th Field Artillery will focus solely on training Field Artillery Warrant Officers, Second Lieutenants, and Captains. To date, this has been an extremely huge endeavor for the battalion but the support provided by our Soldiers has been as expected – first rate.
Contributed over $56,000 to the 2006 Combined Federal Campaign…the single largest donation by any battalion or brigade-level unit on Post
Planned and executed a very successful St. Barbara’s Day Celebration for the Installation.
In addition to this, the Soldiers of the Hard Charger Battalion executed a highly successful Saint Barbara’s Day Celebration on behalf of the Commanding General and Fort Sill and once again set the standard for Fort Sill in voluntary contributions to the Combined Federal Campaign with a total contribution of just over $103,000. Lastly, we still have our sights set on hosting the 2008 30th Field Artillery Regimental reunion! We look forward to this great event and ensuring your visit to Fort Sill is relaxing, exciting, enjoyable, and most of all memorable. Striving to the Highest! Donald H. Myers EDITOR'S SPECIALS [Click on an icon to view special reports in .pdf format]



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